Port Argument, White House Summary
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This stuff on the ports is nuts:
Issues:
- When and how did the President find out?
- From the newspaper. Scott wouldn’t comment if this delay in information flow in Katrina, the VP shootout, and this issue was evidence of a problem within the administration
- When and how did Congress find out?
- From the paper. Scott says they should have been briefed.
- What is the “management” job of the British and UAE comapnies?
- Unclear. But we know they don’t control the security
- Was the UAE company held to a different standard than the British company and in what way?
- There is increased security under the UAE deal, but Scott will not concede that they are held to a different standard of review, dodging the security issue.
- Why are people upset? Do they think the deal is dangerous or do they “just not understand the facts”?
- Scott seems to think that anyone who truly understood the issue would agree with him, as he repeats over and over that it was thoroughly reviewed. Basically, because as Scott asserts there is no security issue, the Republicans and Democrats who are upset simply don’t undestand who’s in charge of security.
- Is this controversy political in nature?
- Scott says it isn’t.
- How does this affect our relationship with the Arab world?
- Scott says Dubai has been good to us. We should return the favor. He won’t comment on the effect rejecting this deal would have on Dubai’s good will and general Arab good will and how that affected the review.
“Will the UAE control or manage the ports?” [ View | Vote ] from daily kos
Now, on to the quotes:
Q So he found out through the news coverage, is that what you’re saying? How did he find out about it?
MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, I think, initially, Steve, when this was becoming more — it was getting more press coverage, that’s how he found out about it.
Q Scott, top Republicans turned on the administration faster than Nancy Pelosi. What do you make of that?MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think you have to ask people their reason for opposing this transaction. It’s up to them to explain their reason for it. The President does not think we should be holding this company to a different standard from the British company that currently manages these terminals.
Q Politically, your own party turned on this White House aggressively –
MR. McCLELLAN: I wouldn’t look at it that way. You’re looking at it in the political context. The President is not looking at it in the political context. I understand and appreciate you looking at it in that context, but the President is looking at this as what I said it is — this was the right principle, and it’s the right policy.
Q Scott, it sounds like the President has lost control of the party on the Hill. It sounds like they’re campaigning against George Bush.
MR. McCLELLAN: No, I don’t think that’s accurate. You’re talking about this specific issue? This specific issue — let’s clarify that — no, I think — the President just came back from a House Republican conference just a short time ago, and they talked about important national security priorities, and they talked about the tools we’re using to protect the American people like the terrorist surveillance program. And at the end of that comment — end of those remarks, he received a standing ovation. So I think there is strong, united support for the policies that we are putting in place and that we are pursuing to make America more prosperous and to make America safer.
This President has made his number one priority winning the war on terrorism. And so let’s keep in mind that the United Arab Emirates is a key partner and ally in the global war on terrorism. They work very closely with us. Partnerships are key to winning the war on terrorism. And they have followed the rules. They went through this review process, a thorough review process, that involved national security experts, that involved counterterrorism experts. They looked at all these issues and they said they were comfortable with this transaction going forward.
And we shouldn’t be creating a different standard here. But if you’re going to try to block something like this, you also need to look at it in the context of those broader foreign policy concerns. It could have a real negative impact on our relations with countries like the UAE, and other allies who are following this issue very closely — allies who have helped us to save lives and prevent attacks.
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, as I said, I mean, we’re looking back in hindsight on this issue. And there are some mischaracterizations of what this transaction is about. There is a false impression left with people. All you have to do is look at their comments to know that there were false impressions left. I mean, we had one in here earlier, we had a reporter earlier in the day suggesting that this company would be in control of the ports. [Scott clarified that they would manage the ports, but wouldn’t clarify if this includes hiring and firing] That’s just not the case. And that’s why it’s important to understand the facts. And that’s why I said that we probably should have briefed members of Congress sooner, but that’s looking at it in hindsight, given the attention it has received.
Q Scott, going back on the issue of the mixed message that the President is concerned about, is that mixed message bigotry or racism coming from both sides of the aisle from U.S. leaders?
MR. McCLELLAN: April, you’d have to ask those who oppose this transaction what their reason is for opposing this. I’m not going to try to question motives.
Q Well, but, Scott, the President said it sends a terrible signal to friends around the world that it’s okay for a company from one country to manage the port, but not a country that plays by the rules and has got a good track record from another part of the world. And, I mean, reading between the lines, it sounds like that’s what he’s saying. And I’m trying to hear from you, what is this mixed message and what does this signal?
MR. McCLELLAN: No, he’s stating a fact. I mean, he’s stating that this is a principled position on his part. It is the right policy, it is the right principle to stand on. We shouldn’t be creating a different standard for a country from the Middle East, or a company from the Middle East, than a company from Great Britain. And that’s what –
Q Okay, what about discrimination?
MR. McCLELLAN: — some are suggesting here. This transaction was very closely scrutinized to make sure that all national security concerns were met. The company agreed to additional security measures that they would take beyond what some others have had to in the past. And I spelled out a couple of areas that they would be addressing as part of those –
Q — discrimination, then, beyond bigotry and racism? Is one country being discriminated against over another?
MR. McCLELLAN: I’m sorry?
Q Is it an issue of discrimination? Is one country being discriminated over another?
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, the President said he doesn’t believe we should be setting a different standard, and that’s the principle that he was talking about yesterday. You would have to ask others their reason for opposing this transaction going forward. And as the President said yesterday, they should explain their reason why they believe this transaction should not go forward, given the facts that I have just provided to you all in this room, and given the facts we’ve been providing to the American people over the last few days about how carefully scrutinized this transaction was.
The top and only concern when it came to this transaction was the safety and security of the American people. Are there any national security threats for this transaction going forward? And every department that looked at this and had their experts look at it determined that there was not.
Q But Democrats are very familiar with national security, saying this sends a very, very bad signal, as far as heightening the anti-American sentiment in the Arab and the Muslim world. Do you agree with that statement?
MR. McCLELLAN: I’m not sure who you’re referring to and what they said.
Q I just told you what they said.
MR. McCLELLAN: Who is it?
Q I don’t want to tell you who it is, I cannot do that. But this person — believe me, is very familiar with these issues — and they said, this sends a very bad sentiment right now at this time when you have the Muslim world dealing with the issue of the cartoon of Allah, which is blasphemous to them, and this is sending — there’s this heightened anti-American –
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, as the President said yesterday, what it does is send a terrible signal to a good ally in the war on terrorism, and to others who are allies in the war on terrorism.
Q For the first time in his five-year presidency, the President has now threatened to veto what is strongly supported by his own party’s Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader, Governor of New York and Governor of Maryland, among many others — Republicans and Democrats. Can you tell us of any such major split before in American history?MR. McCLELLAN: Well, Les, I don’t know if those individuals you mention have had an opportunity to learn all the facts relating to –
Q They speak out without learning –
MR. McCLELLAN: Now, don’t put words in my mouth –
Q — are you contending that they just shoot their mouths off?
MR. McCLELLAN: — you’re putting words in my mouth. Well, there have been individuals who have spoken out and expressed things that simply aren’t correct about this transaction. And so that’s why we want to make sure that they have the facts. We want to make sure that they know the safeguards that are in place. We want to make sure they understand how carefully reviewed this transaction was to make sure that there are no national security threats with it going forward.
Go ahead, Sarah.
Q Thank you. Scott, my question is, was it really necessary or wise to issue the ports contract to a UAE company? Isn’t it risky and taking a chance since many terrorists are believed to be in the UAE?
MR. McCLELLAN: I’m sorry. I didn’t hear the first part of your question. Isn’t it risky for this transaction to go forward, is that what your question is?
Q Yes, is it wise?
MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, for the reasons that I’ve stated throughout this very briefing. The President believes it should go forward because all the security issues were looked at. There are additional security measures that this company is going to put in place. This is not voluntary additional security measures, this is mandatory additional security measures. I’ve touched on what those were. Let me go back through them. They are going to have to enforce security standards under the Container Security Initiative and enforce security standards under the Customs Trade Partnership Against Terrorism. And they’re also committed to cooperating and disclosing of documents, procedures, security measures and employee backgrounds, as well. That was part of the additional security measures that they agreed to.
Q When the President yesterday described what Dubai Ports World would be doing he used the phrase several times “manage our ports.” Is that the wrong impression? If he used that, would that incorrectly be describing their duties –
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, let me tell you what he’s referring to, that they would be involved in managing the terminals at the ports. I think you know very clearly what he is referring to in those comments and what this transaction is about. There’s a clearer understanding now that we’ve had an opportunity to explain it in more detail and talk about the facts surrounding this.
In terms of the ports, this company won’t control our ports. It won’t control security at the ports. The security is under the control of the Coast Guard and under control of the Customs and Border Patrol, and it will remain that way. As I indicated, if this transaction were blocked, it would not change security at our ports one iota.
Q Scott, are there any American companies managing port operations in any Arab countries?
MR. McCLELLAN: I haven’t taken a full look at that. You can probably go and get that information from various companies or departments involved in that. I’m sure — I hesitate to speculate about it, but –
Q You can’t name one, can you? Isn’t that true?
MR. McCLELLAN: Les, I haven’t looked into it. I haven’t look into that matter. But I would point out that Dubai is involved in a number of countries in terms of operations of ports, whether they be airports or ports. Australia, China, Hong Kong, the Dominican Republic, Romania, Germany, India, Venezuela, Djibouti, Saudi Arabia. So this is a company that we’re very familiar with.
Q Scott, why was an American company not chosen for this job?
MR. McCLELLAN: This was a transaction involving a British company and a company from the UAE. And this company wanted to purchase this British-owned company, or purchase the terminal — management of the terminals at these sites. And now they made a number of agreements in this process, too, as I pointed out. But you’d have to ask those American companies if they didn’t want to purchase it. It doesn’t change — it doesn’t change who controls the ports or who’s in charge of security. So let’s be clear on that.
Q I want to get back where we started and the question asked by Kerry, who, unfortunately, in his advancing years continues to have trouble making himself clear, apparently. (Laughter.) The question, very simply, was –
MR. McCLELLAN: Happy birthday. It was yesterday. (Laughter.)
Q But the question very simply was, do you now think the President should have known about this sooner? I ask this in the light of the many times you’ve just told us the extraordinary was this was handled, the extraordinary –
MR. McCLELLAN: You’re asking in — you’re asking to look back in hindsight, Ken. And looking back in hindsight, we believe members of Congress should have been briefed on it sooner. But the President is confident in the process that has been put in place to review these matters. He’s confident in those who are charged with looking at these issues and looking at the national security concerns in this. And that process was carefully followed. This was thoroughly reviewed. And that — but, with that said, the President went back and made sure every single Cabinet Secretary that is involved in this process was comfortable with this transaction going forward. I’m not going to try to play too much Monday morning quarterbacking from this podium.
Q But in hindsight, Congress should have known, but the President shouldn’t?
MR. McCLELLAN: No, let’s point out that — I said they should have been briefed sooner, is what I said.
Q And the President shouldn’t have been?
MR. McCLELLAN: And — well, I think we can look at it in hindsight, Ken, and I’m sure you will look at that. But there’s some 65 transactions — you’re not letting me have a chance to respond here — some 65 transactions over the last year that went through this process. Not one person involved in this transaction objected to it going forward. If there had been an objection, then I’m sure it would have risen to the President’s level. Let me point out to you that once this has gone through the process and the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States has received a complete notification, it goes through that thorough review of the notified transaction, and in some cases it is necessary to undertake an extended review or investigation. An investigation, if necessary, has to begin no later than 30 days after receipt of a notice. Any investigation is required to end within 45 days. And then the President would have to make a determination on that transaction. So that’s the process that was put in place by Congress, by statute, back in 1988 was when it was passed.
Q Just to clear up — back on the ports again — you said at one point, these additional measures that the company will take, security measures. Are they doing exactly the same thing at the British company did? Are these actually additional measures? Were they looked at in a different way?
MR. McCLELLAN: I understand in their agreement there were additional security measures that were reached with Dubai.
Q That the British didn’t have to. Then why should you hold a company from the Middle East to a different standard?
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, you’re talking about the transaction proceeding forward. The top priority of this administration is the safety and security of the American people, and that was a top priority when it went through this review process. But as we move forward, we look at these issues and look at these transactions, and there was an agreement reached with this company to provide those additional security — those additional security — those additional security assurances.
Q That went above and beyond what the British company had to do.
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I’ll let the Department of Homeland Security or Treasury can probably talk more about specifics. Some of this, as I said, is proprietary information so I don’t want to get further into it, but I don’t think you can leap to that same conclusion. This transaction is going forward. They went through the process. Part of the process is that if you come to an agreement like this, you can put additional security measures in place.
Q So they were under greater scrutiny than the British company? They were held to a different standard?
MR. McCLELLAN: They were closely scrutinized –
Q They were held to a different standard than the British?
MR. McCLELLAN: — through this review process. This review process provides for us to be able to reach agreements like this for transactions to move forward.
Q But, Scott, back again on — so they were held to a different standard? The President is saying we should not hold a company from the Middle East to a different standard — they, in fact, were?MR. McCLELLAN: He’s talking about the review process. If you go through the review process and all these issues are thoroughly addressed and thoroughly reviewed, and it poses no national security threat, we shouldn’t be holding them to a different standard. So I think you’re taking it to a different step than what I was suggesting.
Q The point about — you’re kind of dismissive of this — the question about information flow. When — this is obviously a big deal. You’re conceding that now when you talk about you should have briefed Congress and so forth. The President says publicly when he goes around the country, look, after 9/11 it’s okay get back to your lives, let me worry about your safety. And yet on an issue of this significance, he finds out in the newspapers. Shouldn’t people be worried about that?
MR. McCLELLAN: As I said there was not a single objection raised by the experts and by those who are charged with protecting the American people. This is the President’s administration. The people that are responsible for this did look at this matter. If there had been objections raised, and there had been an extended review process, then it would have gone to the President. This went through the normal review process. It is a thorough process. It checks all these issues thoroughly to make sure there is no national security threat with this transaction proceeding forward. So I think it’s important to look at it in that context, rather than just simplify the notion there.
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